Speaker 1: 0:01

What's up? Denver event professionals. Welcome back to another episode of the Denver NACE podcast. I am your host, jared Judge, founder and music director of Extreme Strings Electric Violins, and I am joined today by another industry event professional, someone who I've seen probably since I moved to Denver, maybe a little bit afterwards, but he runs a very exciting business and he has a lot of great ideas that I'm excited to dive into today. So please, welcome to our podcast, jason Gorley. Jason Gorley from Cypher Noise Productions. What's up, jason? Thanks for being on the podcast.

Speaker 2: 0:37

Hey, thanks for having me Excited to be here, excited to do one of these. These are this sounds fun, let's do it Awesome.

Speaker 1: 0:44

Yeah, it's super fun.

Speaker 2: 0:54

So first off, tell us about yourself and particularly, how did you come into the Denver events scene? Yeah, yeah, wow. I would like to say that I came into the scene I would say through I wouldn't say through chance, but like just through chance, because I came out of the telecom industry and I was pretty much, I was pretty much like trying to find my way, like, uh, trying to find my way, um and that, that, sorry about that that, um, yeah, I was pretty much trying to find my way and then eventually, eventually, I, I found it and what I was? I was in the telecom industry. I was trying to like get out of a nine to five job. One thing led to another and I came across the Sonic Disco event. I was like, oh my God, like this is amazing, like there I see a future in this, like a really big future, in what this is, the possibility of what this can do.

Speaker 2: 2:01

And to a year later, I got into it by sending a cover letter to a company locally here in town and boom, I was I. They hired me and I, I worked my way up and I also, at that same time, I got introduced to like Denver startup week and learned about entrepreneurial life and I was just. It was just this. This fire, this new, this supernova exploded. A star was starting to be born and it just when that gravity started settling I really started finding my sense of drive and really passion towards first being an entrepreneur and then, second, trying to build an idea and bringing my talents and honing my talents in that leading. That took about a couple of years, but then, in 2019, me and the previous company split ways and I decided to start my own company and from there I was like there are so many ways that we can implement it.

Speaker 2: 3:05

Well, covid came and wow, that crashed, burned me, and I got to sit in a, in a ecosystem of, I would say, an ecosystem of thinking of like, what are the possibilities we could do? Because COVID was a, was a, I would say, like a way to reflect on what you could do. It brought everyone down to the same level. So I had a chance to really think and what to implement, what to design, and came up with so many, so many ideas, and thus I wanted to really come from an education standpoint. When my customers come and book me, they're, they're, they're locked in via that aspect. So, um, or they. They go with me because of that aspect. They go with me because I'm here to educate them and try to expand my industry to help bring back more sales back to me.

Speaker 1: 4:07

Okay, yeah, that's awesome. I want to kind of just kind of start from the basics here, because you mentioned it silent disco I know that's what you do, but tell us a bit more from the ground up. If I've never seen a silent disco in action which I have, and I'll tell you about that later but if I've never seen that before, tell me about what it is and why is it so cool.

Speaker 2: 4:31

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 4:31

So the traditional aspect of how people get introduced is through the DJ world. They either stumble across it it's not their main thing they're like, oh my God, we're going to go to this silent disco event. They either find it on a cruise. I love, love old people. They tell me that all the time we saw it on the cruise we were like dancing, we were having so much fun. I'll bring it back. I was like okay about like that's typical. And then the other answers is like, yeah, we were walking and then we ended up in this bar and then we there was a song disco. We're what is this thing? And we had the best time of our lives.

Speaker 2: 5:05

That is the traditional way and how I would like to get this into people's head that don't know when they see it or what it looks like. They walk in. First thing they see is people with headphones. That's the first thing. They don't even see the DJ, they don't even see where the headphones stand. They're so. They're so like just taking in all that information, like what the heck is this? Why should I do this? Then they see the dj. Then they see like three different djs playing. They're like what? And then they're like where is this stand? And then they find people handing out headphones and that's where they check it out. They've got three different channels to choose from.

Speaker 2: 5:44

That is the main way people get introduced. Now there are some few lucky people that get introduced to it at a conference space where there's a 10-channel system and they're in this big auditorium, like I mean like half a football size auditorium, where they are basically there for a conference and every in the same room, every zone has like a speaker talking or there's a lab, and this, the silent disco equipment, is pretty much the audio output source for each of those rooms. So it's a it's, I like to say it's a room within a room. So so very few people get exposed in that way. First, mostly it's the, the DJ route. So I'll stop there and because I can ramble on about that, no, that's super cool.

Speaker 1: 6:37

And, yeah, I did get introduced to very similarly to how you described, which is, I went to the Global Dance Fest, which is a festival at Empower Field a couple of years ago, yeah, and most of that festival was outdoors and it was really hot and I decided to go.

Speaker 1: 6:54

They called it like the dance cave or something which was underneath Empower Field. They had a section where, like, they were handing out headphones on the way and I was like what's this for? And I get in so many people dancing with these colored headphones, some of them red, green or blue and then, just like you saw, I was like I didn't have the headphones on. So I saw people wearing the headphones and like moving around. I was like that's kind of weird. Then I then I put them on and then I discover how to change channels. Like, oh, that DJ has a red headphone or a red color next to them. I can tune to the red channel or I can go to the green one, which is playing drum and bass, or the blue one, which is more house, and it was so cool and I got really into it and got very excited and that was my intro to it, which was very positive.

Speaker 2: 7:45

I imagine that's very similar to a lot of people's intros to it yeah, and I want to reflect on your, your, your experience with it, because a lot of people don't realize that silent disco is not about music. It's about what it gives the user that's experienced with it. Options. You got the ability to choose, and that is what I want like to really highlight and the fact of what silent disco really is. So, just like notating your excitement for it wasn't the fact that it was silent disco, it's the fact that you had the choice to be like you know what I'm done with the show, let me hop over to the drum and bass and enjoy my time over there.

Speaker 1: 8:24

So, yeah, for sure, and I'm curious, like you know what I'm done with this show Let me hop over to the drum and bass and enjoy my time over there. So yeah, for sure, and I'm curious, like you know, basically what this does is it enables one event to provide multiple experiences to people all at the same time, which is very interesting. I'm wondering if you could kind of show me how would that work in a non-musical experience?

Speaker 2: 8:45

Yeah, so that's that's. That's a really great question. I'm glad you asked that. Let me start with like, basically like saying to like the producers out there. It's like. This gives you the an option of what I'm about to explain is to stretch to more demographic, and that means in taste, age and skin color. It gives you more options. So let's talk about creative, and we are all creative in different aspects and we consume music while we're possibly drawing, cooking or even cleaning different Like, we listen to different things. So one of the things I like to start off with is, like one of my second things I like to produce is our drawing classes.

Speaker 2: 9:38

Now, I love hip hop music. You might like EDM music, love hip hop music, you might like EDM music. But most of the time when you go to a drawing class, they're playing those classical, like piano, violin. It's just the, just the it's it's. It's not the typical, but it's the norm, and so we get that type of vibe with.

Speaker 2: 10:01

What I do when I create my events is give people options. You still hear the, the um, uh, the uh. Teacher, instructor that's the word I was looking for the instructor on no matter what channel you're listening to. So imagine listening to the instructor, see them, um, basically teach you how to draw, but then you get to choose on the sound disco equipment like, well, I'm going to listen to hip-hop and my friend looks like they're going to listen to edm. That within there is creating a space within a space and giving the journey to the consumer, the customer or the client, that they get to choose on the three hours or two hours, because three hours of a drawing that's pretty long, just that time, length of just just interacting, creating and being creative while ingesting the music that they or they feel real creative too.

Speaker 1: 11:00

So yeah, okay, that's a great use. I'm wondering at this drawing class would it be possible to have three different instructors each showing how to do a different drawing and you can tune into whichever drawing appeals to you the most?

Speaker 2: 11:19

Yeah, so this is this is that's a really good question? Now, what I did was showing you like a tree. It was like this is this is that's a really good question? Now, what I did was showing you like a tree. It was like this one person is taking care of these three, these three different channels, voice. But what you could do is create, yes, three different rooms and each room has, like, has its own topic. So one is like let's call it painting, the other one is, and the other one is just regular pencil, and there's a class on each of those channels, so you can simultaneously have a different class.

Speaker 2: 11:55

This is that question is really opening up the fact of how you look at utilizing San Francisco product, the product itself, on the output of what you're trying to deliver. Are you trying to have sub rooms or are you trying to have sub choices? And what I mean, by the way, sub choices is like what is the audio they're listening to, not just the speaker's voice that's coming in. Now, what we just talked about was that that last part is we're looking at like, well, I've got, I've got a main stage and that one has speakers, but we want to have three other channels or three other speakers going on in this side corner so we create those different topics on those three channels, but it can all happen under one roof.

Speaker 1: 12:52

Yeah, which I think is brilliant, and in fact it kind of circles back to what we were chatting about before I hit record, which is you and I recently attended a conference at the Gaylord Rockies. It was the.

Speaker 2: 13:04

Aspire.

Speaker 1: 13:04

Tour, which was a very like entrepreneurial mindset, get your head in the game kind of conference, and there were some speakers that really resonated with me and I'm sure with you too, and then there were some that I kind of wanted to tune out. And you know, the idea here is like at any event, whether it's corporate or social, there are different, like you said, demographics. Some people are going to be more interested in marketing focused speeches at these conferences, whereas some people are more on the mindset track and then some people are more about like one-on-one sales and how to close more deals. But these conferences are kind of limited, especially that one. They had one ballroom. They didn't have breakout sessions where you could choose tracks, it was just a one uniform quote, unquote one size fits all, but I didn't exactly fit into that one size. Would this help attendees or even the people planning these events basically cater towards multiple demographics in that way where you could customize a conference experience and make it more appealing to the corporate planners?

Speaker 2: 14:09

Yes, yes, so I have done a conference like that. Now, the event that we just you just brought up, they wanted single attention. That's what that conference was designed for, just one single attention. That's what that conference was designed for, just one single attention. But I have done a tech conference where it was more about speaker and education. So they had remember I brought up earlier I was talking about there is a 10-channel system and what that means is there's 10 channels to curate. They utilize that and that system is utilized on the conference level. They utilized it that way where they had like five of the channels were speakers uh, rotating throughout the day and then the other like two, three channels were like labs and what the other. Last you had a decompression channel and then a live podcast happening all day, multiple. Well, it's not the same podcast. I think it was different podcast that was happening throughout the day in the center of this room.

Speaker 2: 15:09

What this is like, going towards that with the conference space, is it actually falls under what silent disco is really also good at is consolidation. So a planner, a producer, doesn't have to go be like you have to have we need to like own majority of the the gay lords uh rooms this weekend like no other event team can come in and be like we want this room. No, the whole production has to go to this particular project. But what silent disco can do? Be like? They could just be like we'll just take up the one room, the one large Aurora ballroom that's at at the Gaylord, and just they just customize the whole thing and they can have multiple different stages for for people to go listen to certain speakers at certain times. So yeah, that's what I believe. I believe Solid Disco is the future for that section, especially to support the conference space of multiple curation or programming planning for, like particular conferences.

Speaker 1: 16:25

For sure, and I imagine, like you mentioned, they don't have to book multiple rooms at the Gaylord, so they're saving a crap ton of money. And then logistics are probably a lot easier because there's no moving from room to room, so people just have one centralized location. Yeah, it's all like their activities. There's no moving from room to room, so people just have one centralized location.

Speaker 2: 16:43

Yeah, it's all like their activities and it sounds like you've been at your fair share of conferences, because then you know they've got that area where they go and hang out, they talk to people and then they, they, they're also like there's like a sales area where it's like they come in and people go to booths to like be like educated, be like, well, if you want this product, this is what we can, how it can integrate into your company things like that nature very cool.

Speaker 1: 17:10

And what's like the, the distance, like how does the technology work? So how far away from the, the uh, the transmitter, can these headphones be until they start to lose signal?

Speaker 2: 17:24

yeah. So it's a really, actually really big distance, so I like to say half a football field. Um, it runs off of rf signal, that's radio frequency, um, so it does take up. It does have a really big bubble. Um, and I would tell you this, after doing a couple of events in the gaylord um, I've had people walk out of that big ballroom to the bathroom and back and they still heard, heard it. Uh, very well. Uh, it does have problems sometimes with concrete, so when those doors are closed it's very unsealed. Then, yeah, there's there's some breakage, but other than that, I believe it does really well.

Speaker 1: 18:09

Yeah, that's nice too, because then the attendees don't necessarily have to be in the main room. They can take a little sensory break and look out the windows and see the Rockies, but still be tuned in and listening. Yes, yes, that's awesome. So how does that process work? Like, say, a conference wanted to use you for their next conference. What does the whole like setup process look like the planning, the execution, the teardown. What does your process look like?

Speaker 2: 18:36

Yeah, so most of the time we get brought in, it's not that we have to convince a client to go with it, they've already decided like we need we're gonna go with silent disco, with this whole event, especially with the conference size, um, and it's easy, like we're the ones who just come in with the equipment um, psav, who's at let's, I'm going to use them or in, uh, now they're called encore. Uh, they're the ones who like supply, like the, the, the back end of, like the mixers, the core, like the connections to every single booth. All we are is like the speakers and we just pretty much put, like we're the output that goes out from the mixer into there, depending on size. It's all about how many headphones we have to supply and to um, how many people so, like how I like to look at it is like, for every hundred of headphones, uh, let's say, for a dancing event, we need like a person, um, so, and then also, if, like, let's say, the event has 500 people but we're in a small corner of a hundred or we only have a hundred headphones, we would still want two people, because we also have to take into account the coming and going of, like those people leaving the solid disco area, coming back, dropping off their headphones, and we clean the headphones, sanitation wise, for prep for the next person to get ready.

Speaker 2: 20:04

So it like I take in so many accounts of, since I've been in this so long, the workload, how big the event is, um, the stress to our table and that's our check. I'd like to call our table our check-in table. That's going to tell us like, well, that's how many people I need to employ to be at that particular table. So, um, but when it comes to conferences, I did a 1600, um, uh, supplied headphones and we needed about like 10 to 15 people. This, this is an all day thing. So that was, that was a big. That was like a big, that was one of my biggest under tests to like create all the time sheets to be like this person's coming at this time and to rely on that, pay them out, get ready for the next, the next steps, um, so yeah, okay.

Speaker 1: 20:59

Very cool. I had a follow-up question. Oh yeah, so say it's an attendee's first time at a conference that has silent disco. What kind of education do they need to understand how their experience is going to be impacted by silent disco?

Speaker 2: 21:17

Yeah, yeah. So what they need to know is basically what we tend to work with with producers first is like, hey, they need to have visual cues of their colors, of their headphones matching with the area that this area is putting out. Like if, let's say, zone B is color green, the guest needs to know that color green is that particular speaker. So we educate them, just like the same as if you walked up at the DJ style and you walk up to a booth. We put them at points of entry where they come in, they leave and come in. So they come up to the booths and they ask us they're like, hey, like, do we get a pair of headphones? Then we say, like these particular headphones, here's how to operate them. This is the buttons you touch, this is the buttons you don't.

Speaker 2: 22:14

All the headphones all have two common things They've got a volume button and they've got a channel changing button. Some are clickers, some are buttons. So, yeah, uh, it's very simple. Once they, once they get told like, hey, these are your colors, then you we say, like, you notice it, this is how you will notice your colors and that's where you go select the to go select it and that's the zone for that color. Then they get the idea it comes, comes, it becomes very simple yeah, I remember it being super easy at the the edm show yeah it becomes very simple for sure.

Speaker 1: 22:51

Yeah, that's awesome. What do you feel are some misconceptions that these producers or event planners have about silent disco that may prevent them from choosing to hire you?

Speaker 2: 23:03

yeah. So the misconception is is the fact that I would say, oh man, I would say it's. They think it's not meant for everything. Um, they think it's just meant for music.

Speaker 2: 23:35

Um, and this is a reason why we're talking in this format.

Speaker 2: 23:37

This is more as the education aspect.

Speaker 2: 23:39

It's like when I go, for example, to get for like a yoga day, a co-working pop-up within this conference space, or do like a side activation on the show floor, where it's like there's a bunch of loudness going on, but they want to have this talk, so they're going to put up speakers, bunch of loudness going on, but they want to have this talk, so they're going to put up speakers, but, like, people will have to like listen and be like oh, I wish I can get closer, but then there's already like there's already like nine layers of people already who made it there first and there they get to hear the best quality version. So, um, I I think the the thing is is they think it's for music. It's for much more than that, and that's why that's why I'm also going to say, like to reflect on, when you mentioned going to that event, you had options and that's the the thing is is a silent disco is a product of options, not for just like oh it's cool, it's dancey, blah, blah blah, so yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:42

Oh, it's cool, it's dancey, blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, oh, that's awesome. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think that would be my misconception too, because my only experience with the silent disco was at a music event, so I wouldn't until you said it on this podcast, I had no idea that you could actually use it for anything else. Yeah, yeah, have you ever thought about like putting together little like either pages on your website or videos that explain specific use cases, like silent disco for conferences or silent disco for painting classes, Like, and then just a little quick video? So here's how, how it would work.

Speaker 2: 25:18

I have blogs. I have blogs on art. Like I've created blogs, I haven't got around to like educational videos. Um, creating that, um, it that that? That could be the next thing that I wanted to do to get going is also educating. That we need is mock-up events of it to really show it and be a part of it, get, get quality shots. So because we we live in an age now that we need not just someone talking to us, but like the, the image of it being put in our heads to see the possibility of it. Mm-hmm, yeah for sure, is that you calling for people to hire you for for mock up events? I do actually have a cool story about one that actually just came to me recently, so I will say that because I possibly know you have another question.

Speaker 1: 26:30

Well, we're getting close to the end of the episode, so if you want to share that story, that'd be awesome.

Speaker 2: 26:35

Yeah, so this one really threw me for a loop and I problem solved my way out of it, which was this was not out of it but to create it, and I was referred to somebody from somebody that they told me that they needed help with a translation event and I was like that's a first, let me hear more.

Speaker 2: 26:59

And they were like well, we, we've got this um, this um priest coming in to preach, um, to basically give a sermon, and but he only speaks Hebrew, um. And so I was like, oh, and what we did was we? Once I understood, like, basically, the audience needs to hear English, this needs to come into a translator on this language. I was like, well, then we need to basically get a mixer, bring one in the, and the translator only hears the guy in Hebrew, and then the audience is on the other channel that is only English. So one of the channels was actually in Hebrew, but the other one was in English, and it was a very cool experience to do something different and set up. I was really excited when they booked me. They're like yeah, let's do it, cause once I told them how to do it and how to, how, like I'll need to be there to hand out the headphones, I have to run the, I have to run the, I have to run the, the audio, and I have to like make sure the cues are there and what we need to look for. And it really my, my experience really did pay off there, where it was like I really thought it went smoothly. But to do something different outside of just being hired for like a dj event was great.

Speaker 2: 28:23

Um, there, there are some other events I do get hired out for, just to note that is like oh, movie nights, people use them for me in the backyards of kids, like so if they want to have one for their kid, one for them, and yeah, that's one. And then I also do like a, a baking class. That literally it was. This is where also another note silent disco solves the solution, uh, gives a solution to a problem. This they needed. They had 400 women who love to talk, but like, so then that overpowered the instructor. So then they were like, let's add silent disco to it, so then they pay attention and they can hear the instructions as they're prepping this bread.

Speaker 2: 29:07

And it was like whoa, like just the interaction, to get the point across, to expand the event larger, add more people to it, which they ended up adding another 200 the following year. It's just that's what, that there is possibilities. So, yes, I would say like, if you come to me with an idea, be like would you think this would fit with this? I say I have the expertise where I can be like well then, we now need this equipment, this equipment and this equipment to make it happen. And there's our. This is how it will work.

Speaker 1: 29:42

Yeah, that's awesome. Thanks for sharing all those stories, yeah, one, one of the. Uh, getting back to that translation event that opened up so many like possibilities in my mind too, because, like, what a better way to make guests of different backgrounds and languages feel included in your event than by? Actually letting them hear the event in their native town.

Speaker 2: 30:05

Yes, yeah, yeah. So just think about that, like, just think about silent disco. As I said in the beginning of this, it's not, it's not music, it's options, it's consolidation and it's breaking down barriers to add in more demographic that you normally could have not reached. But it could be the same idea for the event, but you can add more layers by using this product. Go, come to me. He wanted to do a kind of a tasting event where he wanted to bring in smell, uh, sound and taste, and so, like each room journey was a different smell and taste. It was like it was tasting of alcohol. So it was uh, I think it was bourbon or scotch, and like there was like it was tasting of alcohol. So it was, I think it was bourbon or scotch, and like there was like different smells, but then you put on the headphones that was like basically give you like wilderness sound, things like that, like for each area. So it was like it had all of those three touches almost in it.

Speaker 2: 31:20

Yeah, so it was. It was. It was an interesting idea that I wish we could have executed. But we realized it was going to take some more moolah, so we were like, yeah, we might have to hold off on this one no, that does sound like a very awesome experience.

Speaker 1: 31:34

it reminds me of like if you ever been to disney. When you walk between lands, like you know, if you go to avatar world, they've got like nature sounds playing in the background and Avatar music. And then when you walk over to Star Wars land, all of a sudden the soundscape changes and now you're hearing like the sounds of laser shooting and things like that. That's so cool. Yeah, creative application of your technology.

Speaker 2: 32:00

Yeah, yeah, and, honestly, a lot of people haven't thought about it. That's, that's like they still think about when they. I get the same reaction every single time when I bring up these ideas to them. They're like, huh, I never thought about that. And I'm like, yeah, this is. You know, this is an uphill battle, um, because we are bringing something that people are not used to seeing and that always takes time to actually bring the mat like win over the masses, and then, once those doors come down, people are like, oh, can you do this? Can you do this, can you do this? And yeah, I hope to. I hope to be there one day where it's just like, like I said, I like to take my company from an education standpoint and be like, um, this is how, what, this is what you could do, this is the possibility of what you can do. Let's see if we could do so. Like yeah.

Speaker 1: 32:58

Yeah, that's awesome. In most other aspects of event planning, like the visual component of it or even the culinary part of it, we figured out how to diversify and provide multiple experiences in one event. Like with the visual part, you know there's different areas of decor. They might have a lounge area at a wedding, or you know the different rooms might be themed differently. In the culinary space, you know we have different cuisines. Different courses have different cuisines. We also can provide vegetarian options for those who don't like meat. Ah, I see where you're going with that In the auditory space. We haven't really done that yet.

Speaker 2: 33:39

No, you are right, that's actually a really I'd never thought about it like that. But that is a good point, because we are still locked on using speakers and there's nothing wrong with keeping it loud. But if you want to create an additional section, then why don't you just add headphones and it submerges you into another event within the event and give people options, even like who are just like I needed to be lower, I needed to be quieter, like things like that. That option like I. I love that you brought that up because it's I've never thought about it like that and that is a great way to put it awesome.

Speaker 1: 34:19

Yeah, the. The thought to me was too, like I'm a musician, so like I focus mainly in the auditory space with a little bit of visual thrown in. But like what, if somebody doesn't like violin, I'm kind of screwed. More importantly, they're screwed.

Speaker 2: 34:36

Yeah, they're screwed. Yeah, I don't know, if you don't mind. There's another idea I wanted to share, since you're a musician I was looking at I want to enter the small concert space, intimate, like pop-up house, like you're in a house, but I want to isolate, like I want to call it isolation, where, let's say, violinist and maybe a different instrument is on one channel and then another channel is like drum, something that I'm not a huge musician, I'm like not, I don't know that background on making sure to line up the tempos, beats and all that, but each of those have their own channel, but then on the last channel it's all blended together and that's the whole experience. So then, if you're like I just want to hear part of the violinist, I just want to hear the violinist in this portion, you switch over to a channel and you listen to that part.

Speaker 1: 35:37

That is a great idea and actually that's not the first time I've heard of this kind of concept. But this company they made an app for the iPad. It was a classical music app where they had different symphonies loaded up, where you could listen to different instruments in isolation, really Combine, like the French horns with the trumpets, and hear how that sounds. Or you could just say let's listen to all of them at the same time. And as a musician, especially classical musician, I nerded out about that idea. It was so cool. It really enhanced the listening experience and I felt way more connected to the musicians. So I think you're onto something with that.

Speaker 2: 36:26

I don't think anybody's ever done that in the live music space. I think Silent Disco can capture that. It's just got to be presented in the right way, because if it is, we would start off by opening it up as we hear all the instruments, but then or actually reverse we could start up with just a few instruments, then we would, then the next set would come in and then all the final piece, and then you're like whoa and then that that's also helping with the journey in between their channel shifting, because you have to get them moving in between all three of the channels.

Speaker 1: 37:04

For sure. Yeah, I think that would work well, kind of like a fine dining experience, like you're not just there to casually listen to music in the background. It has to be intentional and if presented that way, I think it would be a very appealing experience for music lovers.

Speaker 2: 37:21

Yeah, it's just, it's gotta be, it's gotta come out. It's gotta come out in a way that it's just it's got to be, it's got to come out. It's got to come out in a way that is just like it's creating the journey, like you, normally would it be on silent disco, because all three channels and then the instruments that that are how we combine them. So it's it's silent disco, is it really? Is a curation part too. That's what I forgot to mention. You really have to also focus on how you curate it, because then you'll come across. Once it comes across, it's like Whoa, how did they do this? So, yeah, I can, I can talk about more and more like every time. So like we could talk about another hour or so and I'd be like yeah, here's another thought on that. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1: 37:59

So yeah, yeah, no for sure, and it's obvious that you've got the passion for this and you've got the thoughts for it, like you're a thinker, you're a problem solver, and so I feel like those discussions are best served with future clients. So let's bring you some people. If people want to find out about you and your Silent Disco services and pick your brain about how to be creative with the audio at their event, how would they find out about you and reach out to you?

Speaker 2: 38:27

Yeah, thanks, man. I would love to talk to more and more people about this, and the best way to just get a hold of me is definitely go to my website, cyphernoiseproductionscom, and just contact me via through my contact form or call our number 720-295-4745, and love to hop on if someone's got an idea they're willing to bring it to life and they're like. I want to know, like how silent disco can even benefit this or not benefit, elevate elevate is the key word to actually add more that they never thought they were going to curate for. I'd love to have the conversation, because more people that get educated means more people that will be willing to hire us, and that will be more work for the rest of my industry. So then, we're not all eating off the same plate. There are multiple different food options.

Speaker 1: 39:26

Awesome, well said. And then, just to be clear, we spell Cipher C-I-F-E-R. Noiseproductionscom. You got it, jared. Jason, thanks so much for joining us. This was a great episode. I enjoyed bouncing some ideas off of you and to our listeners, thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Denver NACE podcast. To find out more about our lovely organization, the National Association for Catering and Events, go to nacedenvercom and that'll bring you to our lovely chapter website where you can find out about our upcoming meetings. Our next one is coming up June 10th 2025. And it's all about building your social media Reels to revenue five steps to landing your dream clients. So you will not want to miss out on that. So have a good rest of your day. Thanks for tuning in and we'll see you on the next episode.

Speaker 2: 40:20

Yeah.